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AmethystFae
PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject:
Calluna wrote:
AladdinsGenie wrote:
It's almost a gamble on mentioning it without wondering if he'll get mad. I was holding my breath when they were giving him his Golden Globe Award a few years ago when they did an entire sequence dedicated to his movies and role of Genie using "Friend Like Me" in the background Laughing
Yeah, he gets very... defensive about that for some reason. Even before Katzenburg went back on their deal he was acting like that. Laughing


Maybe because he doesn't want to be type-casted? But Genie was awesome, and everybody knows that there's more to Robin Williams than Genie. I love most of his movies. (I say most, because there's probably some I haven't seen.) And of course, they'd play "Friend Like Me." What else would they play?

~Hikaru
Ariellen
PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject:
It definitely is on the Pocahontas VHS, which was released in...March? 1996. That's probably where I saw it first...

And I finally remembered that the other place I'd recently seen it was on the "Magic and Mystery" volume of the Princess Collection VHS tapes; I was needing a Secret of Dagger Rock/Forget Me Lots fix.
persian85033
PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:28 pm    Post subject:
I can't remember too well, but I think it was Homeward Bouond II:Lost in San Francisco. Confused
Ariellen
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:50 pm    Post subject:
Calluna wrote:
The first one that showed actual animation was... I want to say...Pocahontas? I have that tape at my parents' house and can't check. But I think that was the one that showed Al's bleeding arm that got edited out, right?


You know, I can't remember what the first one with a trailer with animation and scenes was...Pocahontas is probably right. *very tempted to watch a lot of Disney videos from the general time frame of 1995-early 1996 to see if I can remember on which one I saw it first* This is killing me because I know I watched SOMETHING with the bleeding arm trailer not that long ago, and can't remember what it was!
Calluna
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:35 pm    Post subject:
Disney Princess wrote:
And then when the first teaser came out...I was SO excited to see a trailer that started with just the Aladdin title logo...bouncing up and down "THIS IS IT, STUFF ABOUT THE NEW MOVIE!!!!!!!"...and "Now, you're favorite characters are back in the final chapter, Aladdin and the King of Thieves! Coming Only to Video!" "This is IT?! This is what we came all the way down here to..." It was crushing!
The first one that showed actual animation was... I want to say...Pocahontas? I have that tape at my parents' house and can't check. But I think that was the one that showed Al's bleeding arm that got edited out, right?
APK
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:10 pm    Post subject:
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Initially, Williams enjoyed these compliments -- until he realized that people were saying that his very best work was in a cartoon, a medium that only made use of an actor's voice, not his face. This is the sort of thing that can really start to bug a guy who studied at Juilliard.


Aww Sad But that's nothing to be upset over these days! People look at voice actors and animation much differently than they did before. (mostly thanks to Disney) I consider voice acting equally important as acting in live movies. I would love to do voice work in a cartoon (as long as the character was cool Wink )
Ariellen
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject:
Calluna wrote:
KoT in 1995 - Maybe they originally entered it when the release date was first announced and then never updated it? Laughing (I still have ads that came with some of my old Disney tapes that have a 1995 release date for KoT on them...)


I'll buy that explanation. Smile

I don't remember if I have any of the paper booklets anymore (don't think so), but I remember first hearing about it because it appeared in the ad that came in The Lion King VHS case (ca. March '95) and being SO excited that it would be out that summer...and then there was no teaser trailer or anything on the VHS itself! I was so bummed to hear it was delayed.

And then when the first teaser came out...I was SO excited to see a trailer that started with just the Aladdin title logo...bouncing up and down "THIS IS IT, STUFF ABOUT THE NEW MOVIE!!!!!!!"...and "Now, you're favorite characters are back in the final chapter, Aladdin and the King of Thieves! Coming Only to Video!" "This is IT?! This is what we came all the way down here to..." It was crushing!
AladdinsGenie
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject:
Disney Princess wrote:

1997- Great Minds Think for Themselves (it lists this as a TV series, which sort of makes me laugh a little; they list him as "The Genie"...AG, go at it! Razz)


*stabbity stab stabs 'the'* Laughing
Calluna
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject:
I haven't seen AI in years; I think it was a talking computer, so I'm not sure which category that would fall under. But it was definitely a voice-only part.

KoT in 1995 - Maybe they originally entered it when the release date was first announced and then never updated it? Laughing (I still have ads that came with some of my old Disney tapes that have a 1995 release date for KoT on them...)
Ariellen
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject:
OK, because it was driving me crazy, I looked up all of Robin's voicework on IMDB. If anyone knows of any inaccuracies (b/c I haven't seen all of these and know that IMDB isn't always exactly, you know, right about stuff), do share your insights! (asterisks=theatrical releases)

From most recent...(saving all Aladdin stuff for its own section...)

*2005- "Fender" in Robots

*2001- "Dr. Know" in A.I. Artificial Intelligence (anyone see this? Was this an animatronic character or an animated character?)

1992- "Timekeeper" in the theme park attraction The Timekeeper (Le Visionarium" at DLRP...I feel this has to be the year the Paris version opened because I'm pretty sure that attraction didn't hit WDW until '95...)

*1992- "Batty Koda" in FernGully: The Last Rainforest

1991- "The Kiwi" in a TV...something...called A Wish For Things that Work

1990- Appeared in live action and as the voice of an animated lost boy in the "Back to Neverland" film in the old, good version of The Magic of Disney Animation attraction at MGM

And here are all his credits as Genie:

1992- Aladdin
1995- Aladdin on Ice (TV; uncredited)
"1995," aka 1996- Aladdin and the King of Thieves *kicks the website for that very glaring error*
1997- Great Minds Think for Themselves (it lists this as a TV series, which sort of makes me laugh a little; they list him as "The Genie"...AG, go at it! Razz)
1998- Aladdin's Math Quest (video game, listed as "Blue Genie")
Ariellen
PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:48 am    Post subject:
Hey, even the Genie of the Messageboard is allowed to have a little bit of a memory lapse. Smile

Thanks for sharing the article snippet again; hadn't read that one in a really long time so I was feeling shaky on specifics of that whole fallout, too. Smile
Calluna
PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject:
Disney Princess wrote:
Heather, I'm curious aboout your remark that he was acting defensive about the project even before the deal was broken...the "There's new info to learn here!" buzzer is going off in my mind, so could you share some more on that? /was too young to understand the details at the time and hasn't heard anything about this before


Where was that article? Oh, here we go...

Jim Hill wrote:
Then there was the performer's ambivalence toward all the praise Williams was receiving for his work in "Aladdin." Time and again, people would come up to Robin and tell him his performance in the animated film was his best thing he'd ever done. Initially, Williams enjoyed these compliments -- until he realized that people were saying that his very best work was in a cartoon, a medium that only made use of an actor's voice, not his face. This is the sort of thing that can really start to bug a guy who studied at Juilliard.

Williams' ambivalence toward "Aladdin" became public knowledge in February 1993, when he received a certificate of special achievement for his work in the film at the Golden Globes. As he went up on the stage, the clearly uncomfortable Robin didn't know what to say about this alleged honor. He jokingly asked the celebrities and foreign film critics assembled for the ceremony, "Is this like a coupon I can turn in to get a real award?"


Although I remembered wrong, this was after the bus shelter ads that were supposedly an accident but before the ads that mentioned his Golden Globe which were what finally pissed him off enough that he said he'd never work for Disney again.
Ariellen
PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject:
AladdinsGenie wrote:
Nah, I just think it goes back to that deal with Disney not going by his wishes not to blow Genie out of proportion, but they did so anyways.


^ What she said. He did the project largely because "Ooh, wouldn't it be fun to be in a Disney movie...I could be in something my kids could see!" and ended up feeling that Disney betrayed, exploited, and cheated him.

Heather, I'm curious aboout your remark that he was acting defensive about the project even before the deal was broken...the "There's new info to learn here!" buzzer is going off in my mind, so could you share some more on that? /was too young to understand the details at the time and hasn't heard anything about this before
AladdinsGenie
PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:38 pm    Post subject:
Nah, I just think it goes back to that deal with Disney not going by his wishes not to blow Genie out of proportion, but they did so anyways.
persian85033
PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:33 pm    Post subject:
Really? I thought he' d be pleased that people knew all his characters? Hmm. Maybe he just doesn't like it to be made a big deal cause...he wants to prove he's just an ordinary person, too. Or maybe he's a little insecure? Like asking him, if he was really the one who did Genie, getting defensive, cause maybe he thinks they're going to tell him it was rotten or something?

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