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AladdinsGenie
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 Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:13 pm Post subject: Fairy tales linked to abusive relationships |
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I think this might go under the miscellaneous category since it's not exactly Aladdin related or Disney, but I found this very funny:
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LONDON (AFP) - Young girls who enjoy classic romantic fairy tales like "Cinderella" and "Beauty and the Beast" are at greater risk of becoming victims of violent relationships in later life, a British researcher says.
A study of both parents of primary school children and women who have been involved in domestic abuse claims than those who grew up reading fairy tales are likely to be more submissive as adults.
Susan Darker-Smith, a graduate student who wrote the academic paper, said she found many abuse victims identified with characters in famous children's literature and claimed the stories provide "templates" of dominated women.
A more senior academic at the University of Derby said the topic was sure to spark debate but merited further research.
"They believe if their love is strong enough they can change their partner's behaviour," Darker-Smith said. "Girls who have listened to such stories as children tend to become more submissive in their future relationships."
The research, conducted in Leicester in the east of England, is to be presented to the International Congress of Cognitive Therapy in Gothenburg, Sweden, next month.
Her study, entitled "The Tales We Tell Our Children: Overconditioning of Girls to Expect Partners to Change", will be discussed by many of the world's most influential therapists.
Darker-Smith said she believed younger generations exposed to television and other entertainment media may react differently and be less submissive than those weaned solely on literature.
Her work found the most popular bedtime stories for girls were "Cinderella" and "Rapunzel", while boys were more likely to hanker for "Paddington Bear" or "Thomas the Tank Engine".
Darker-Smith, a masters student in cognitive behavioural psychotherapy at the University of Derby, will also submit other abstracts to the conference, examining ideas about anorexia and post-traumatic stress disorder.
Michael Townend, senior lecturer in psychotherapy at the university said: "We know that storytelling is an important way that children form beliefs about themselves and relationships."
"Susan's work is an interesting study which is sure to spark debate, but further research is required in this area." |
It's a good thing Jasmine takes no sh*t from anyone, or else I might be messed up too  |
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Calluna
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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This reminds me very much of a certain old Aladdin fan I know. 
Anyway, I guess it depends on what part of the stories they related to.  |
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AladdinFan
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| Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: Fairy tales linked to abusive relationships |
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| AladdinsGenie wrote: |
It's a good thing Jasmine takes no sh*t from anyone, or else I might be messed up too |
You got that right. Thats what maks her better than most disney "heroines". I'm glad that people are begining to see the stupidy of cinderella and snow white and other films involving weak man desperate so-called heroines.
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Husse
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Oh sure, ME submissive.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Husse wrote: |
| Oh sure, ME submissive. |
NOT!!!!!!!!!
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Husse
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| Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Yup. Ask my chump mother.
Heh heh, Hello, Mom. 
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Meesh
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Jasmine is awesome, and Disney made her headstrong and yeah.
I can definitely understand the BatB one.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Meesh wrote: |
I can definitely understand the BatB one. |
I don't know.
The scene where Belle is nursing Beast's wounds kinda show her not taking any of Beast's sh---.
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Meesh
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| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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I know, but in the original fairytale itself, that's not the case.
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APK
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What a load of ********! 
Hey Why did the censors block that out? I only said proposterous nonsense.
Well, I still don't agree with a lot the article said. I'm not a big fan of Cinderella but I think most little girls love those stories because they like the idea of magic and princesses. Plus, the books usually come with pretty pictures. 
When I was a kid, I liked Cinderella because she was nice to animals
But now I prefer princesses like Jasmine, who make it their life's ambition to scare men into submission. |
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Husse
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Oh, please. Belle was not the least bit submissive.
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AladdinsGenie
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 11:24 am Post subject: |
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There might be a difference between "Belle" and "Beauty" from the original story.
I know there's a huge glaring difference between "Jasmine" and the princess in Aladdin whose name changes depending upon what version you have . The one in the book was a robot  |
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persian85033
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Well, Jasmine is definitely not like that.  If she was she would have married one of those hateful suitors and tried to change him. VERY unlikely, at least from what I saw with Achmed.
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