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Jas
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand that it's not the theme of the movie. My point is, they implied that they won and I didn't think they were any better than the others to where their victory was guaranteed (in fact, I thought quite the opposite).
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wanted to post this a while back but I kept forgetting. Some things I liked about HSM

I'm going to first apologize for the length of this post. But please read it.

There have been some who were annoyed by the movie's portrayal of high school and its cliques. (it's offensive, so cliche, etc etc)

But for a movie about teen cliques, I'd have to say it did a fairly good job of sending out the message that they divide people, but not so much that it makes high school look terrifying. Here's why.

1. They didn't portray cheerleaders as being stupid, slutty or mean. Simply because Taylor didn't like them doesn't make them bad. And just because they're into Troy doesn't make them stupid. They didn't show that Taylor ever got to know any of them personally, but it showed that even the "braniac underdogs" like her could be closed minded towards others. Her character did have an air of superiority around her throughout the movie, as if she was SO SURE she was better than everyone else. When Taylor shows Gabriella how to "speak cheerleader," Gabriella was confused, as if she was wondering how anyone could "speak cheerleader." Clearly, her character is free from judging others for their cliques and labels, which is why Gabriella gave Troy a chance. She isn't totally unaware of how fast people can label others however, which is why she is determined not to be the school's "freaky genius girl again."

2. They didn't portray jocks as being stupid, brainless or mean. Troy and his friends are pretty nice guys. However, Taylor glares at them while they walk past the hallway as if they don't deserve to be sharing the same school as her. She declares that Chad doesn't know how to count, yet Chad hasn't missed out on homework since pre-K. (I'm sorry, I might have gotten that quote wrong)In fact, the jocks had to have been pretty smart to think of that scheme in the end of the movie.

3. They didn't portray braniacs to be uncool, bad dressers, ugly or unconfident. Taylor happened to be the only "mean" one in her crew. They didn't show the others being as judgemental. But even she can change in the end. While all the different cliques in their school avoid each other, they are okay as individuals when given the chance.

4. The only really intentionally mean one in the movie was Sharpay. Her brother Ryan is more of a follower. If he didn't have Sharpay by his side all the time, he could be a nice guy. at least he can admit when other performers are as good as him.

5. At least the other kids in school can talk to each other without flaming each other, despite whatever they say behind each other's backs. It's safe to say they all have known each other for a long time, but they don't know each other well. They know each other's names and acknowledge each others existence. Even though they avoid each other, it doesn't seem like they have a real hate for each other. Notice how Chad and his teammates stand next to Sharpay and Ryan when they look at the callback list. They look comfortable and friendly and not eager to start a war. (Except for Sharpay who screams bloody murder when she sees the list) But even Sharpay can talk to Troy (and Troy and his teammates at least acknowledge that Sharpay was cute "So is a mountain lion. But you don't pet it.")

5. There were no nerdy bookworms being shoved into lockers, there were no creepy goth girls thrown in the movie for laughs, there were no sterotypical Black guys/girls used as props, there were no uncool shy girls that were magically transformed into a beauty queen by prom night...or any of those stuff thrown in in teen movies.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

while we're on the topic of sequels today, I should add that HSM is a 3 part installment and there will be an HSM 2 and 3. I don't think they'll be bad, because they've been planning a 2 and 3 for a while now and they have a good director
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eeeh I'm not to crazy about it...but it sounds ok
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok I'm watching HSM on Disney channel again and I have yet to grow tired of it. This is all Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have yet to watch that, but my brothers go around saying all day "Getcha, getcha head in the game!" Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadly "Getcha Head In The Game" IMO, was probrably one of the worst songs out of the whole show Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know. The little commercial spot for that song where they're going "You were always there beside me" gets on my damn nerve Laughing

But they're 9 year old guys. Of course they are going to like the basketball song Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing That one gets stuck in your head easily.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AladdinsGenie wrote:
I don't know. The little commercial spot for that song where they're going "You were always there beside me" gets on my damn nerve Laughing


OMG YES. That song drives me nuts!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HSM Explosion: http://music.aol.com/news/articles/_a/a-blockbuster-high-school-musical/20060424123609990001

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i haven't actully seen the movie, but my lil bro is OBSESSED! He has the soundtrack now and it's all he plays and all he sings. Pretty okay songs, but it's so damn annoying!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"a song-and-dance romance that Disney executive Gary Marsh described as "`Grease' meets `Romeo and Juliet,"' was create a hit movie for kids. "

That statement alone proves I need to stay away from this because I hate Grease and I hate Romeo and Juliet Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's nothing like Grease or R&J! Laughing People are always comparing them together because people have no imagination. I bet some people compare Monsters Inc and Pokemon together just because they have little friendly monsters. Laughing

They just compare it to other movies for marketing purposes, but it doesn't define the movie well. I could name so many differences, but you didn't watch it, so you wouldn't get the comparisons. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AladdinsGenie wrote:
That statement alone proves I need to stay away from this because I hate Grease and I hate Romeo and Juliet Laughing


Blasphemy! Laughing I was obsessed with Grease when I was in high school. Laughing
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