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AladdinsGenie Genie of the Messageboard
Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 11856 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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I think Rebecca said her dress was like Cinderella's
And Into the Woods is GREAT. Go see it. Now. Why are you still reading this? Go! Scat! Shoo! |
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AmethystFae Portland Princess
Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: So I'm watching Cinderella now |
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When you consider what time it's set in, and look at all the other Cinderella adaptations which usually suck, Cindy isn't so bad.
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I noticed that when I got the DVD.
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Cinderella isn't my favorite princess (I grew up with PCness) but I'm watching it right now on the disney channel and I'm realizing that while Cinderella isn't the loudest princess and probably not the greatest role-model she isn't *that* submissive.
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She isn't my favourite either, but she also isn't my least favourite. She is better than Snow White (IMO) and I still haven't decided on whether she's better than Aurora or not.
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Sometimes she really is too nice for her own good but I notice that she does try to reason with her step-evils sometimes and has this "Oh, no this biatch didn't," look on her face sometimes but then decides not to say anything. Sometimes she does say things like "Oh, *now* what do they want? I'm coming, I'm coming!" (After all, she only cooks and cleans. She isnt' being beaten so she has no reason to run away. Where would she go? She's basically an orphan and has to work to be able to stay in her step-mom's house. She probably only stays because they are her only family and for whatever reason, her father loved her step-mother)
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In some versions of the story, her father's still alive. In others, "the Stepmother's true nature" is revealed. I guess Disney couldn't have a loving father be alive and know this stuff was going on, but trust me, it does happen.
And, you're right. Where WOULD she go? Sometimes you've got to pick your battles. And, at the end, she left with the prince. She didn't say, "Well who will take care of my family?" So, she's not entirely a pushover.
I also noti
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ce the way she holds her head up with a quiet dignity when she asks why she can't go to the ball. Throughout the film she had class and grace which her sisters didn't have and she probably doesn't want them to know they've gotten the best of her so she remains polite. (she only cries once in the movie and it's not in front of them) The rest of the film she keeps her head up. |
Well, twice, actually, but neither time was in front of them.
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And remember the scene when Lucifer (the demon cat) purposefully tracks his dirty paws on the floor Cinderella just cleaned? I love the way she throws down the towel and says "I'm just going to have to teach you a lesson!" and picks up the broom and advances towards him. (even though she gave that whole speech to the dog about being kind to others) She even sicks the dog on the cat in the end! |
She's kind of sassy to the cat throughout the movie when the "steps" aren't around. Did anyone else notice that? It's kind of funny, because the cat can't tattle on her.
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When the fairy godmother comes she tells Cinderella that "all dreams must come to the end." The fairy godmother only wanted to give Cinderella a much deserved break and help her go to the ball for that one night, not help her get married. |
I never actually thought of it that way. No doubt the Fairy Godmother knew what the king's tactic was, but you could be right. Who knows?
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Here's something I've never noticed before: When Cinderella is at the ball she doesn't know that the guy she's with is the prince. She's not looking for a happily ever after marriage, she just wants to go to the dance. When her dress is gone and the carriage is a pumpkin again she says something along the lines off "Well, that's that. Now it's over." So I don't think she was planning to dwell on that dream for the rest of her life. |
Oh, I loved how she really liked this guy she danced with, not knowing he was the prince. She loved him for who he was. I only wish they'd done a scene with them getting to know each other. Maybe they talked alittle. In a couple of different versions of Cinderella I've read, the ball lasted over a period of a few nights or a week.
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The original fairy tale wasn't great (every orginal fairy tale sucks until its adapted, imo) |
Well, that's a matter of opinion, like you said. But fairy tales have been adapted so many times, I think everybody can choose his or her favourite and be happy with it.
For whatever reason, I like the part in the original where the stepmother cuts up the step sisters' feet.
And then I think of Into the Woods. "No blood at all inside the shoe. This is the proper bride for you."
I don't think I own a version of Cinderella where the Stepsisters get their eyes pecked out. But then again, I've gotten some new fairy tale books since the last time I checked. And the foot-cutting is usually there.
~Hikaru _________________ "HARDER, FASTER, DEEPER. . . HUH!!!!!!!" |
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Lord Mozenrath Apathetic Lord
Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Posts: 319 Location: The Citadel, The Land of the Black Sands
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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AladdinsGenie wrote: |
I think Rebecca said her dress was like Cinderella's
And Into the Woods is GREAT. Go see it. Now. Why are you still reading this? Go! Scat! Shoo! |
Into the Woods? I've seen it and it was great. Especially the witch, who seems more than it meets the eye..... _________________ Well I'd like a Good Laugh too! I'm Laughing already! Hahahahaha!
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AmethystFae Portland Princess
Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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AladdinsGenie wrote: |
I think Rebecca said her dress was like Cinderella's
And Into the Woods is GREAT. Go see it. Now. Why are you still reading this? Go! Scat! Shoo! |
Now, that right there reminds me of a friend who isn't one of my close friends, but I happen to hold a lot of respect for her. But you're not her. Still, your reaction to Into The Woods is similar to how she would have reacted. I had to do a double-take.
~Hikaru _________________ "HARDER, FASTER, DEEPER. . . HUH!!!!!!!" |
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AmethystFae Portland Princess
Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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Lord Mozenrath wrote: |
AladdinsGenie wrote: |
I think Rebecca said her dress was like Cinderella's
And Into the Woods is GREAT. Go see it. Now. Why are you still reading this? Go! Scat! Shoo! |
Into the Woods? I've seen it and it was great. Especially the witch, who seems more than it meets the eye..... |
You like the Witch, too? Shut UP! She's like my favourite character! How awesome that you like her, too. I loved her outfit in the second half, too. I want a similar copy, only dark purple where the red part was.
~Hikaru _________________ "HARDER, FASTER, DEEPER. . . HUH!!!!!!!" |
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AladdinsGenie Genie of the Messageboard
Joined: 17 Jul 2004 Posts: 11856 Location: Tennessee
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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PrincessHikaru wrote: |
Now, that right there reminds me of a friend who isn't one of my close friends, but I happen to hold a lot of respect for her. But you're not her. Still, your reaction to Into The Woods is similar to how she would have reacted. I had to do a double-take.
~Hikaru |
I'm just a big collection of everyone ever |
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AmethystFae Portland Princess
Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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I found, among my bookmarks, tales from around the world, and a Cinderella story from Scottland. This reminds me of a couple of different stories I've read. I'm starting to wonder if the other stories this reminds me of were derived from Cinderella as well. Hmmm...
http://www.darsie.net/talesofwonder/scotland/ptgs.html
I was surprised China didn't seem to have a Cinderella story, but then I didn't look closely at every story either.
~Hikaru _________________ "HARDER, FASTER, DEEPER. . . HUH!!!!!!!" |
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Nez Eccentric Papyrus Jockey
Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 2617 Location: Bellevue, Ne
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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PrincessHikaru wrote: |
I found, among my bookmarks, tales from around the world, and a Cinderella story from Scottland. This reminds me of a couple of different stories I've read. I'm starting to wonder if the other stories this reminds me of were derived from Cinderella as well. Hmmm...
http://www.darsie.net/talesofwonder/scotland/ptgs.html
I was surprised China didn't seem to have a Cinderella story, but then I didn't look closely at every story either.
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Maybe. In China, they desire tiny feet, so maybe there is be an adaptation of Cinderella that suits the Chinese sensibility. _________________
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AmethystFae Portland Princess
Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Nez wrote: |
PrincessHikaru wrote: |
I found, among my bookmarks, tales from around the world, and a Cinderella story from Scottland. This reminds me of a couple of different stories I've read. I'm starting to wonder if the other stories this reminds me of were derived from Cinderella as well. Hmmm...
http://www.darsie.net/talesofwonder/scotland/ptgs.html
I was surprised China didn't seem to have a Cinderella story, but then I didn't look closely at every story either.
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Maybe. In China, they desire tiny feet, so maybe there is be an adaptation of Cinderella that suits the Chinese sensibility. |
Oh, I know they do. What I meant is on that site there doesn't seem to be a Chinese version of Cinderella.
~Hikaru _________________ "HARDER, FASTER, DEEPER. . . HUH!!!!!!!" |
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Nez Eccentric Papyrus Jockey
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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PrincessHikaru wrote: |
Nez wrote: |
PrincessHikaru wrote: |
I found, among my bookmarks, tales from around the world, and a Cinderella story from Scottland. This reminds me of a couple of different stories I've read. I'm starting to wonder if the other stories this reminds me of were derived from Cinderella as well. Hmmm...
http://www.darsie.net/talesofwonder/scotland/ptgs.html
I was surprised China didn't seem to have a Cinderella story, but then I didn't look closely at every story either.
~Hikaru |
Maybe. In China, they desire tiny feet, so maybe there is be an adaptation of Cinderella that suits the Chinese sensibility. |
Oh, I know they do. What I meant is on that site there doesn't seem to be a Chinese version of Cinderella.
~Hikaru |
Ah. My apologies. _________________
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Syera Cynical Scribe
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 3441 Location: West Nenūvān
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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There's a Chinese Cinderella story. I found it online here. _________________
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AmethystFae Portland Princess
Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Syera wrote: |
There's a Chinese Cinderella story. I found it online here. |
Ooh! That was awesome. Thanks.
~Hikaru _________________ "HARDER, FASTER, DEEPER. . . HUH!!!!!!!" |
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Syera Cynical Scribe
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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You're welcome. _________________
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Syera Cynical Scribe
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 3441 Location: West Nenūvān
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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Whoa... I was just watching Cinderella, and I realized that the mice are so totally analogous to SGA. 'Specially in the kitchen scene where the mice sneak out for corn. _________________
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Jas Cool Colonel
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 12001 Location: Agrabah, Georgia
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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AladdinsGenie wrote: |
I think Rebecca said her dress was like Cinderella's |
Woah, totally missed this one. Yes, my dress was like Cinderella's.
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I was just watching Cinderella, and I realized that the mice are so totally analogous to SGA. |
Care to explain that one? I'm not seeing it. _________________
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