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APK
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The gargoyles are a figment of Quasi's imagination in the orignal story I believe. Maybe the song is too.  |
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AladdinsGenie
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| You know, even to this day, I STILL don't get that. I mean I know they're a figment of his imagination, but I still can't SEE them as that, you know? Maybe Disney has spoiled me with the inanimate objects talking, but I don't see why they'd have to add that little bit in there . I guess they're adding to the realism? I have no clue, but yeah...that's always bugged me. |
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Jafaria
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| I do not own a copy of this movie but I desperately need to know something about it. See I take a humanities class and when we started talking about Notre Dame Cathedral I had these flashbacks to the one time I watched Hunchback of Notre Dame about three years ago. Besides I collect Disney villain pins and I'm after a Frollo one right now. I love him, he reminds me of Jafar. That's why I wanted to ask, did Frollo and Jafar have the same animator or was it just some kind of coincidence, I find it hard to believe that he could be drawn by someone else and look so much like Jaffy. |
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Nez
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| Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:12 am Post subject: |
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| Jafaria wrote: |
| I do not own a copy of this movie but I desperately need to know something about it. See I take a humanities class and when we started talking about Notre Dame Cathedral I had these flashbacks to the one time I watched Hunchback of Notre Dame about three years ago. Besides I collect Disney villain pins and I'm after a Frollo one right now. I love him, he reminds me of Jafar. That's why I wanted to ask, did Frollo and Jafar have the same animator or was it just some kind of coincidence, I find it hard to believe that he could be drawn by someone else and look so much like Jaffy. |
Actually, Frollo was animated by Kathy Zielinski, not Andreas Deja. However, Kathy did animate the beggar and snake Jafar, so you're half-right. Of course, some people compare Frollo's design to Lady Tremaine from Cinderella. I think it's the lips and the face structure.
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AladdinsGenie
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| Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| And the nose with the darty eyes |
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Mariposa79
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| Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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| The characters from Beauty and the Beast couldn't have met the characters from Hunchback From Notre Dame. While both are set in France, they were set during completely different time-periods. Hunchback of Notre Dame, while I don't know exactly when it was set, was set during the Gothic period, which ranged from the 12-15th centuries. Beauty and the Beast was set much later - sometime in the 19th century, I'd venture. |
True, true. But I like to think of all the disney characters alive together at the same toontime at toontown |
and they all have a great time at the House of Mouse...
umm by the way didn't aladdin say that he wanted jiminny cricket to be his monkey? |
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AladdinsGenie
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| Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Cause Aladdin fights with his own conscience enough without a literal representation of it telling him what he's doing is wrong |
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Ariellen
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| Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Nez wrote: |
| Jafaria wrote: |
| That's why I wanted to ask, did Frollo and Jafar have the same animator or was it just some kind of coincidence, I find it hard to believe that he could be drawn by someone else and look so much like Jaffy. |
Actually, Frollo was animated by Kathy Zielinski, not Andreas Deja. However, Kathy did animate the beggar and snake Jafar, so you're half-right. Of course, some people compare Frollo's design to Lady Tremaine from Cinderella. I think it's the lips and the face structure. |
I can see both...I tend to see the Jafar similarities first, though, maybe because they're both tall males it's easier to go from there. The long robes, big hats, thin faces, etc. It's the spidery fingers that draw the biggest comparion from me, though.
Now that you mention it, though, I can see a good amount of comarison between Frollo and Lady Tremaine (even a little Jafar and Lady Tremaine). AG mentioned a few already, but I think in villain TYPE, Frollo and Lady Tremaine are very similar...they're both quiet, calm, manipulative, and cruel...they both exhibit a lot of chillingly real, subtle villainy. Jafar is like that sometimes (I think most obviously when he tells Jasmine that Aladdin has been killed). He's still more like Maleficent, though, IMO...they have many understated-but-still-cruel scenes, but the magical abilities and evil laughter and dramatic transformations sort of undermine that subtlety. (Which isn't BAD. It means you don't think of them as being the sorts of people you might meet in real life, but they're still scary in the sense that they've been so put-together and collected and here's the moment of power....and....they SNAP AND LOSE IT...and of course, uliltmately pay.) They're just different sorts of 'evil and scary.' Lady Tremaine and Frollo are more subtle and also very real since they DON'T have magical abilities or anything. Jafar and Maleficent CAN be very understated, which makes it frightening when they pull out all the magical power they can muster and unleash it all in full blast without much warning. Seeing just what a person is capable of can be terrifying in its own way.
And just for AG...OTP! (Since you can't mention 'Maleficent' and 'Jafar' in the same post without that reaction anymore  ) |
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AladdinsGenie
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| OTP! *cheers* |
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zendora
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Jeez! I only watched this movie once and that was a long, long time ago but I couldn't remember who Frollo was, went to look it up and now I remember why i never watched it again: he scared me so much. 
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Ariellen
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| Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| Jeez! I only watched this movie once and that was a long, long time ago but I couldn't remember who Frollo was, went to look it up and now I remember why i never watched it again: he scared me so much. |
I remember being 11 when that movie came out; we took my 3 year old cousin with us to see it and he was really too young to get most of it, so he didn't get bothered; he liked the colors and songs and stuff. He sat on my lap the whole time, and I definitely crouched down to hide behind him during "Hellfire"...grim reaper-esque figures with the hoods and no faces freak me out and utterly TERRIFIED me for a long time (any version of A Christmas Carol thus frequently shook me up a bit, even the ones I loved like Mickey's and the Muppets'), so I was freaking scared during that scene. |
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AladdinFan92
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| Actually, the Hunchback of Notre Dame is going on Broadway.I saw it on this thing on the Aladdin DVD.I don't remember where it was,though.Anyway,it should be out in a couple of years.Did anyone else know about this? |
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Nez
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| AladdinFan92 wrote: |
| Actually, the Hunchback of Notre Dame is going on Broadway.I saw it on this thing on the Aladdin DVD.I don't remember where it was,though.Anyway,it should be out in a couple of years.Did anyone else know about this? |
*Raises hand*
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APK
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| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| AladdinFan92 wrote: |
| Actually, the Hunchback of Notre Dame is going on Broadway.I saw it on this thing on the Aladdin DVD.I don't remember where it was,though.Anyway,it should be out in a couple of years.Did anyone else know about this? |
No way!  I have the Aladdin DVD and I didn't see anything about it. I could've sworn I watched that thing back and forth! Yay! |
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Janette Morgan
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| There is another that explains that Disney's Neverland is hard to find because it changes its location. And sometimes Neverland can be huge and sometimes it can be small. Sometimes you can find your way to it and sometimes you can't. |
Sounds about right. According to J.M. Barrie, you only find Neverland if it wants to be found.
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| I think the gargoyles were over the top. |
Maybe so, but there are two reasons that I could ever be cajoled to watch that movie again. One is the gargoyles, and the other is the old man (I'm free! I'm free! Aw, dangit!) (It's not that I really have a thing for Gargoyles, it's just that I kind of have a warm fuzzy spot for gargoyles in general. Especially since I learned that the word "gargoyle" is directly related to the word "gargle").
(Of course, I think my fondness for these gargoyles has something to do with my uncle, who many years back was playing with a hand-puppet of one of the characters with his daughter. Well, you know, those puppets don't have very long arms. So my uncle quips: "If my arm were any longer I'd pick my nose." Since then, about any toy that comes into the house is fair game for attempted nose-pickery. The only ones who have managed it so far are Mr. Fantastic and The Thing, both of which come with real bendy wrists.)
Aaaaanyway... I still say Frollo looks like Roy Scheider. With various evil add-ons.
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