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dazzeling diamond Gypsy of Mystery
Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 310 Location: The land Down Under (Australia)
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: Why don't people like fics with Al'n'Jas's kids? |
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k i was wondering, since i have come across quite a few people who don't like stories with their kids, or based around them. so why? i wonder.
Cause, I really like AladdinFan92's story, "If I Never Knew You" which is an awesome story. It is based on Al and Jas's daughter but they, as parents, are also very much a part of the story.
So why is it people are so against it? _________________
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Syera Cynical Scribe
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 3441 Location: West Nenūvān
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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There've been several posts in multiple topics that explain exactly why people don't like seeing fanfiction/sequels centering around Aladdin and Jasmine's (or anyone's) kids. In a nutshell, people are tired of...
-Kewler, hipper version of Mom/Dad reliving Mom/Dad's adventures. (Or a completely canned-plot adventure.)
-Mom/Dad suddenly turning into washed-up old fogies while junior goes out and gets into trouble. (While Mom and Dad Just Don't Understand, usually.)
Fanfictions/sequels about children could be done well. It's just that it doesn't seem to happen very often. _________________
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AmethystFae Portland Princess
Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: Why don't people like fics with Al'n'Jas's kids? |
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dazzeling diamond wrote: |
k i was wondering, since i have come across quite a few people who don't like stories with their kids, or based around them. so why? i wonder.
Cause, I really like AladdinFan92's story, "If I Never Knew You" which is an awesome story. It is based on Al and Jas's daughter but they, as parents, are also very much a part of the story.
So why is it people are so against it? |
I can't say for sure, since I don't necessarily feel that way, but maybe it's because with kids, Aladdin and Jasmine aren't the same, or at least people think that. Or, maybe it's because in every fanfic where they have kids, people have different ideas about names, how many kids, etc.
~Hikaru _________________ "HARDER, FASTER, DEEPER. . . HUH!!!!!!!" |
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Syera Cynical Scribe
Joined: 03 Jul 2005 Posts: 3441 Location: West Nenūvān
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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The number of children don't really bother me, and as long as the names make sense culturally-speaking, I'll be good.
If a story about Aladdin and Jasmine is set some time after they were married, I'd prefer them to have children - it only makes sense. But... it'd have to be done right for me to enjoy it. _________________
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Calluna Genie of the Messageboard
Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Posts: 3692 Location: Where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain.
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:17 am Post subject: |
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I'm not saying I could never like a fic about their kids, but the main reasons I haven't liked others are for one of these reasons:
- One or more of the kids is a Mary Sue
- there's no plot; it's just about the kids being cute
- it's a cliched love story involving one of the kids
- Al and Jas act out of character, important canon characters (usually Genie) disappear for no reason
Edit: so you know, I'm not talking about AladdinFan92's fic; I haven't read it yet beyond just skimming to make sure it was appropriate for the site. A couple of fics about their kids that I do remember liking were Sedeara's "The Life of Mine, for the Life of Yours" and "A Question of Virtue". _________________ "If only I could believe you. Perhaps I can! After all... you do bear the name of a flower." -- Arbutus
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dazzeling diamond Gypsy of Mystery
Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 310 Location: The land Down Under (Australia)
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Hmmmmm, interesting points. so, what u guys r saying, is taht u don't mind it, but the ones that are written don't tend to be written well and usually fall under the same spell each time? _________________
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Calluna Genie of the Messageboard
Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Posts: 3692 Location: Where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain.
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:23 am Post subject: |
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dazzeling diamond wrote: |
Hmmmmm, interesting points. so, what u guys r saying, is taht u don't mind it, but the ones that are written don't tend to be written well and usually fall under the same spell each time? |
I think you were posting this while I made my edit, but, yes. I'll read about pretty much anything if it's written well. Al's kids fics just tend to have a worse track record for some reason. _________________ "If only I could believe you. Perhaps I can! After all... you do bear the name of a flower." -- Arbutus |
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dazzeling diamond Gypsy of Mystery
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:29 am Post subject: |
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that's too bad. I guess people just have to be careful how they do it, just like with any fanfiction _________________
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AmethystFae Portland Princess
Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 12:35 am Post subject: |
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I don't think Aladdin and Jasmine's kids, or any characters' kids, for that mater *cough* LM2 *cough* should overshadow the characters we grew to love.
But you have to understand that firstly, having kids can change anyone's life. Now, I so cannot see Al and Jas becoming boring sticks in the mud. No way in Hell. Nor can I see an end to the adventures. Yeah right. Like the villains and monsters are just going to leave Agrabah alone just because Al has kids. No. If anything, some villains might try to get to Aladdin through his kids. It happens all the time.
I think Al and Jas would make cool parents.
~Hikaru _________________ "HARDER, FASTER, DEEPER. . . HUH!!!!!!!" |
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dazzeling diamond Gypsy of Mystery
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, ur right. cool shoe by the way! _________________
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VampireNaomi Sultan
Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Posts: 269 Location: Land of the Lurkers
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:02 am Post subject: |
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My reasons for not really liking those fics are similar to what's already been said. I think it's annoying that the child is often the main character. I read fanfiction to see the new adverntures of canon characters, not some usually annoying original character.
Besides, most of these stories are about Aladdin and Jasmine's teenage daughter. I'm getting really sick of that. What I'd like to see is a fic about them having a seven-year-old son who acts like normal kids do and does NOT tag along to their adventures. I can't stand fics about the kid disobeying everyone and then saving the day (think of Jade in Jackie Chan Adventures and you know what I mean). _________________ "Now nothing will stand in the way of DOING THE DISHES!" |
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dazzeling diamond Gypsy of Mystery
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:39 am Post subject: |
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I guess everyone has their own opinions. I don't mind the ones about teenage daughters, actually. I only care that it is well written and good.
I do get ur point though, coz they tend to get repetitve if the author isn't careful. _________________
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AmethystFae Portland Princess
Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 5:33 am Post subject: |
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VampireNaomi wrote: |
My reasons for not really liking those fics are similar to what's already been said. I think it's annoying that the child is often the main character. I read fanfiction to see the new adverntures of canon characters, not some usually annoying original character.
Besides, most of these stories are about Aladdin and Jasmine's teenage daughter. I'm getting really sick of that. What I'd like to see is a fic about them having a seven-year-old son who acts like normal kids do and does NOT tag along to their adventures. I can't stand fics about the kid disobeying everyone and then saving the day (think of Jade in Jackie Chan Adventures and you know what I mean). |
Ummm...Al and Jas should not have a teenage kid. I never knew there was a fic out there.
Are there any fics with the "Chibi Usa" approach? Bleh... Anyone know what I'm talking about?
~Hikaru _________________ "HARDER, FASTER, DEEPER. . . HUH!!!!!!!" |
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Nez Eccentric Papyrus Jockey
Joined: 07 Oct 2004 Posts: 2617 Location: Bellevue, Ne
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:07 am Post subject: |
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PrincessHikaru wrote: |
VampireNaomi wrote: |
My reasons for not really liking those fics are similar to what's already been said. I think it's annoying that the child is often the main character. I read fanfiction to see the new adverntures of canon characters, not some usually annoying original character.
Besides, most of these stories are about Aladdin and Jasmine's teenage daughter. I'm getting really sick of that. What I'd like to see is a fic about them having a seven-year-old son who acts like normal kids do and does NOT tag along to their adventures. I can't stand fics about the kid disobeying everyone and then saving the day (think of Jade in Jackie Chan Adventures and you know what I mean). |
Ummm...Al and Jas should not have a teenage kid. I never knew there was a fic out there.
Are there any fics with the "Chibi Usa" approach? Bleh... Anyone know what I'm talking about?
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Over here, we call her "Sailor Mini-Moon", but I can see what you mean. Little kid sister figure who is actually little kid daughter from the near future comes to help her future parents. Is often a total brat and is openly not impress with said parents as teens/children.
As for Al and Jas, would they say "no" to an adventure if it took them too far away from their children? I'm working on a story where Aladdin is faced with that choice. I'm not saying that Aladdin would do it all the time, but I'm trying to see if Aladdin or Jasmine would put their children first before going on an adventure. _________________
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Ruby Restless Agrabah Citizen
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Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:50 am Post subject: |
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I don't actually write fics but I draw comics a lot.. I guess they're quite the same..
In one of the strips Jasmine gives birth to a baby boy. Al and Jas decide to show him a whole new world and they go fly around the world on the carpet. When they arrive in India, the parents start fighting over some real stupid thing and the baby falls off the carpet. They can't find him anywhere and fly back to Agrabah. After some time Baghera finds the crying baby and names him Mowgli.
I hope it wasn't too mean. I drew the comic mainly as a joke.
I can't imagine drawing a comic with Aladdin and Jasmine's children as one of the main characters, talking with everyone and doing his/her own heroic&adventurous stuff etc. I could accept it if Disney created the children but other ways... noo.
But, people can write what they want. I don't even read fics so whatever. I don't wanna know. _________________ Oh I come from a land from a far away place |
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