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danfrandes Agrabah Citizen
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Posts: 75
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Don't forget the character Nadira. |
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Salukfan Tiger-Clawed Thief
Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 1991 Location: Butler, PA
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: |
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If I'm going to say we can't use Disney's stuff without permission I may as well just take the whole site down. |
There's a HUGE difference between you dedicating a site to the work they created and her stealing their work and claiming it as her own. _________________ "This cow's been covered with flour!" |
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Calluna Genie of the Messageboard
Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Posts: 3692 Location: Where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain.
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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The problem is there is a lot of that kind of thing in AU fics and canon-scene-from-the-point-of-view-of-a-different-character fics. So I can think of at least a dozen other non-crappy fics that would have to come down if I made that a new rule, including a couple of Evi's really old fics, a couple of DP's, and (if I still had it up) my Hakim and Fazal fic. _________________ "If only I could believe you. Perhaps I can! After all... you do bear the name of a flower." -- Arbutus |
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Salukfan Tiger-Clawed Thief
Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 1991 Location: Butler, PA
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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At least other people put some creativity into it, and actually add to the story. This is blatent regurgitation, with no creativity whatsoever. I don't know if you've seen the song-fic thing she did, where her version of the songs "if Cassim never left" just susbstitutes Cassim's name for Aladdin's and/or splits OJA into a duet.
I'll admit it,l I'm totally biased toward her and have wanted her destroyed since the first time I noticed her fanfiction. It's the alias, man. If the name was "Moze_is_teh_happy!!", and he had the misfortune of being her target, I wouldn't care. _________________ "This cow's been covered with flour!" |
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Calluna Genie of the Messageboard
Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Posts: 3692 Location: Where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain.
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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I really need to go through and read them all because I don't know to what extent she's doing this. I only validated her because I was sick of getting PMs to approve ten new fics every day. _________________ "If only I could believe you. Perhaps I can! After all... you do bear the name of a flower." -- Arbutus |
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Salukfan Tiger-Clawed Thief
Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 1991 Location: Butler, PA
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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Now, I don't want to punish you into doing that.
Though, in an attempt to find a shining example of my point, I went to one of her fics and found this disclaimer:
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I don't own Cassim, Carina, or Hiyahmah. Cassim belongs to Disney. Carina and the town Hiyahmah belong to other fan fiction authors. |
Eh, at least she admits it. _________________ "This cow's been covered with flour!" |
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dazzeling diamond Gypsy of Mystery
Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 310 Location: The land Down Under (Australia)
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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danfrandes wrote: |
Don't forget the character Nadira. |
I'm sorry, I didn't get what you meant for a moment. Nadira, as in my character Nadira? What about her? |
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AmethystFae Portland Princess
Joined: 18 Dec 2005 Posts: 837 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Salukfan wrote: |
Now, I don't want to punish you into doing that.
Though, in an attempt to find a shining example of my point, I went to one of her fics and found this disclaimer:
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I don't own Cassim, Carina, or Hiyahmah. Cassim belongs to Disney. Carina and the town Hiyahmah belong to other fan fiction authors. |
Eh, at least she admits it. |
Isn't it an unwritten rule that you're not supposed to use other fanfic writers' owned characters? I, personally, wouldn't do such a thing.
~Hikaru _________________ "HARDER, FASTER, DEEPER. . . HUH!!!!!!!" |
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Salukfan Tiger-Clawed Thief
Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 1991 Location: Butler, PA
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:52 am Post subject: |
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Isn't it an unwritten rule that you're not supposed to use other fanfic writers' owned characters? I, personally, wouldn't do such a thing. |
The whole thing seems rather pointless, if you ask me. Why take things from another person's point of view about the characters, rather than developing a POV of your own? That's the fun of fanfiction, IMO. _________________ "This cow's been covered with flour!" |
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Ariellen Scourge of the Desert
Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 708
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Calluna wrote: |
So I can think of at least a dozen other non-crappy fics that would have to come down if I made that a new rule, including a couple of Evi's really old fics, a couple of DP's, and (if I still had it up) my Hakim and Fazal fic. |
Thanks for sticking me in the non-crappy category...that's going to be the positive thought I leave with to go study for finals. x.x *departs, muttering how she would LOVE to revisit and rework that fic someday...* |
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Calluna Genie of the Messageboard
Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Posts: 3692 Location: Where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain.
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Disney Princess wrote: |
Thanks for sticking me in the non-crappy category...that's going to be the positive thought I leave with to go study for finals. x.x *departs, muttering how she would LOVE to revisit and rework that fic someday...* |
I understand; HaFaD's down for a reason... _________________ "If only I could believe you. Perhaps I can! After all... you do bear the name of a flower." -- Arbutus |
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VampireNaomi Sultan
Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Posts: 269 Location: Land of the Lurkers
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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Salukfan wrote: |
The whole thing seems rather pointless, if you ask me. Why take things from another person's point of view about the characters, rather than developing a POV of your own? That's the fun of fanfiction, IMO. |
Some people defend it by saying that we already borrow someone's (in this case, Disney's) characters without permission. However, I don't think that logic works. If I write a fic about Jasmine, everyone knows I didn't create her, but it's so much easier to steal someone's original character.
That said, I actually have written a fic using somene else's Aladdin characters without permission. I just didn't post it anywhere because it was meant for myself and my friend. There is this really cute story we both liked, but we thought the ending didn't work very well, so I rewrote it for our enjoyment. I tried contacting the author for permission, but since I was unable to reach her, nobody else will ever get to read the fic.
And in case someone is wondering, the original fic was "Love's a Bug" by Mica West. I wish she was still in the fandom. _________________ "Now nothing will stand in the way of DOING THE DISHES!" |
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dazzeling diamond Gypsy of Mystery
Joined: 01 Apr 2006 Posts: 310 Location: The land Down Under (Australia)
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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I suppose it's acceptable if its just for private enjoyment and isn't released as your own character. Although as fanfic authors, that is what we're doing to disney's characters, but so long as there is a disclaimer, it's all good!
Also, does anyone know what danfrandes was talking about when they mentioned Nadira? Cause I have a character named NAdira, and I want to know what they were talking about! |
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gotapenname Streetrat
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 15
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Would you have felt better about it if they put a disclamalir giving you creidit If the answer is no then maybe just maybe you rethink publishing fan fiction. After all if you don't think discliamer is enough for why should it be differnt for walt Disney. If any boady watned to steal my charecters, I be happy. But Just that's Just becuase me and my OCC's are't on good terms. Theyre etheier pisse becuase I made them too Mary Sue or they have grown Imapainet with me for not haven written them in a story yet. |
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Calluna Genie of the Messageboard
Joined: 14 Jul 2004 Posts: 3692 Location: Where the wind comes sweepin' down the plain.
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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gotapenname wrote: |
Would you have felt better about it if they put a disclamalir giving you creidit If the answer is no then maybe just maybe you rethink publishing fan fiction. After all if you don't think discliamer is enough for why should it be differnt for walt Disney. If any boady watned to steal my charecters, I be happy. But Just that's Just becuase me and my OCC's are't on good terms. Theyre etheier pisse becuase I made them too Mary Sue or they have grown Imapainet with me for not haven written them in a story yet. |
They didn't steal her characters, they stole her plot. Fanfiction doesn't just *copy* the canon... _________________ "If only I could believe you. Perhaps I can! After all... you do bear the name of a flower." -- Arbutus |
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