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danfrandes
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget the character Nadira.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If I'm going to say we can't use Disney's stuff without permission I may as well just take the whole site down. Laughing


There's a HUGE difference between you dedicating a site to the work they created and her stealing their work and claiming it as her own. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is there is a lot of that kind of thing in AU fics and canon-scene-from-the-point-of-view-of-a-different-character fics. So I can think of at least a dozen other non-crappy fics that would have to come down if I made that a new rule, including a couple of Evi's really old fics, a couple of DP's, and (if I still had it up) my Hakim and Fazal fic. Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least other people put some creativity into it, and actually add to the story. This is blatent regurgitation, with no creativity whatsoever. I don't know if you've seen the song-fic thing she did, where her version of the songs "if Cassim never left" just susbstitutes Cassim's name for Aladdin's and/or splits OJA into a duet. Rolling Eyes

I'll admit it,l I'm totally biased toward her and have wanted her destroyed since the first time I noticed her fanfiction. Laughing It's the alias, man. If the name was "Moze_is_teh_happy!!", and he had the misfortune of being her target, I wouldn't care. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really need to go through and read them all because I don't know to what extent she's doing this. I only validated her because I was sick of getting PMs to approve ten new fics every day. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now, I don't want to punish you into doing that. Laughing

Though, in an attempt to find a shining example of my point, I went to one of her fics and found this disclaimer:

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I don't own Cassim, Carina, or Hiyahmah. Cassim belongs to Disney. Carina and the town Hiyahmah belong to other fan fiction authors.


Eh, at least she admits it. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

danfrandes wrote:
Don't forget the character Nadira.


I'm sorry, I didn't get what you meant for a moment. Nadira, as in my character Nadira? What about her?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salukfan wrote:
Now, I don't want to punish you into doing that. Laughing

Though, in an attempt to find a shining example of my point, I went to one of her fics and found this disclaimer:

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I don't own Cassim, Carina, or Hiyahmah. Cassim belongs to Disney. Carina and the town Hiyahmah belong to other fan fiction authors.


Eh, at least she admits it. Laughing


Isn't it an unwritten rule that you're not supposed to use other fanfic writers' owned characters? I, personally, wouldn't do such a thing.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Isn't it an unwritten rule that you're not supposed to use other fanfic writers' owned characters? I, personally, wouldn't do such a thing.


The whole thing seems rather pointless, if you ask me. Why take things from another person's point of view about the characters, rather than developing a POV of your own? That's the fun of fanfiction, IMO.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calluna wrote:
So I can think of at least a dozen other non-crappy fics that would have to come down if I made that a new rule, including a couple of Evi's really old fics, a couple of DP's, and (if I still had it up) my Hakim and Fazal fic. Confused


Thanks for sticking me in the non-crappy category...that's going to be the positive thought I leave with to go study for finals. x.x *departs, muttering how she would LOVE to revisit and rework that fic someday...*
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Thanks for sticking me in the non-crappy category...that's going to be the positive thought I leave with to go study for finals. x.x *departs, muttering how she would LOVE to revisit and rework that fic someday...*
I understand; HaFaD's down for a reason... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salukfan wrote:


The whole thing seems rather pointless, if you ask me. Why take things from another person's point of view about the characters, rather than developing a POV of your own? That's the fun of fanfiction, IMO.


Some people defend it by saying that we already borrow someone's (in this case, Disney's) characters without permission. However, I don't think that logic works. If I write a fic about Jasmine, everyone knows I didn't create her, but it's so much easier to steal someone's original character.

That said, I actually have written a fic using somene else's Aladdin characters without permission. I just didn't post it anywhere because it was meant for myself and my friend. There is this really cute story we both liked, but we thought the ending didn't work very well, so I rewrote it for our enjoyment. I tried contacting the author for permission, but since I was unable to reach her, nobody else will ever get to read the fic.

And in case someone is wondering, the original fic was "Love's a Bug" by Mica West. I wish she was still in the fandom. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it's acceptable if its just for private enjoyment and isn't released as your own character. Although as fanfic authors, that is what we're doing to disney's characters, but so long as there is a disclaimer, it's all good!

Also, does anyone know what danfrandes was talking about when they mentioned Nadira? Cause I have a character named NAdira, and I want to know what they were talking about!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you have felt better about it if they put a disclamalir giving you creidit Question If the answer is no then maybe just maybe you rethink publishing fan fiction. After all if you don't think discliamer is enough for why should it be differnt for walt Disney. If any boady watned to steal my charecters, I be happy. But Just that's Just becuase me and my OCC's are't on good terms. Theyre etheier pisse becuase I made them too Mary Sue or they have grown Imapainet with me for not haven written them in a story yet.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gotapenname wrote:
Would you have felt better about it if they put a disclamalir giving you creidit Question If the answer is no then maybe just maybe you rethink publishing fan fiction. After all if you don't think discliamer is enough for why should it be differnt for walt Disney. If any boady watned to steal my charecters, I be happy. But Just that's Just becuase me and my OCC's are't on good terms. Theyre etheier pisse becuase I made them too Mary Sue or they have grown Imapainet with me for not haven written them in a story yet.
They didn't steal her characters, they stole her plot. Fanfiction doesn't just *copy* the canon...
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