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[quote="AladdinsGenie"]They did that with HBOND2, but he's pretty forgettable and wasn't really the focus until the end. I was just more pissed they made a sequel in which they paired up Quasi with someone more than the random child Esmeralda and Phoebus had :lol:[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:58 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Another thought: after they brought Robin back for KoT, if they made another sequel they'd pretty much have to bring him back again or there'd be a lot of whining about it. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> I don't know if he is even still happy with Disney right now and would be willing to do another Aladdin, but if he is they'd still have to pay him his normal rate, so it would make an Aladdin sequel more expensive than making a sequel of another movie. But if they *did* decide to make that investment they'd probably put in the time and effort to make the story and animation as well as they could to make sure that the movie did well and they didn't waste all that money on Robin... So, long story short, I think another Aladdin sequel is very unlikely, but if it is made then it's not just going to be a hack job thrown together as quickly as possible (at least if Genie's in it).</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Chris</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:49 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I'd like a 4th movie if done right, but I'd be so worried about it being done wrong! <br /> <br />A kid could work if, as others have said, it's not just the same adventure a generation later. At this point I actually think a movie following Cassim and Iago on their adventures after KOT could potentially work better than a straight sequel. <br /> <br />I've not watched Hunchback 2 yet (picked it up real cheap last week, so should get around to it soon) but I agree with part of the appeal of the first one was that the main hero didn't get the girl but he came away with exactly what he wanted; his freedom. In fact I watched the Finale Ultimo from Der Glockner Von Notre Dame on youtube the other week (two parts, both subtitled) where Esmeralda dies at the end. But the way it's handled and with the full choral reprise of Someday before the Bells of Notre Dame finale makes it even more powerful than the original film.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:11 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I don't know, but if he was, then he clearly missed the message in the first one <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />. That's one of those sequels I don't think needed to exist in the context they made it in. I *liked* the fact HBoND didn't end with Quasi getting a girl because it showed you didn't *need* that in order to be happy. And then here comes this movie just completely contradicting that and throwing it all out the window. I'm glad she saw him for who he was and he did get someone and all that, but it cheapened the message in the first one for me.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:56 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>AladdinsGenie wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">It felt like they paired him up for the sake of doing it because he didn't have anyone, which just totally spit in the face of the message of the first one to me <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I might just be imagining this, but wasn't HoND2 made because Eisner was a huge fan of HoND?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>persian85033</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:40 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">too true. You're right, though, like about the kid doing the same thing the parent did. They might be a little better if the kid was different? <img src="images/smiles/icon_confused.gif" alt="Confused" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:37 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">It felt like they paired him up for the sake of doing it because he didn't have anyone, which just totally spit in the face of the message of the first one to me <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>persian85033</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:26 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">That one was just terrible. I didn't like the girl they paired Quasi up with. It seems that they just did it, just cause. I don't know, it wasn't really, like a real romance, or anything, you know what I mean?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:48 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">They did that with HBOND2, but he's pretty forgettable and wasn't really the focus until the end. I was just more pissed they made a sequel in which they paired up Quasi with someone more than the random child Esmeralda and Phoebus had <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:53 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">If a child just happened to be in the story it <span style="font-style: italic">could</span> work out, but I think we all know that they'll never do it that way, because the only reason to add a child character is to add a younger, hipper character for your target age to relate to. Any other reason and the character is superfluous.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:21 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">A lot of the newer sequels are hit or miss with me because they slowly have seemed to be more about contining the story for the sake of it rather than having a real purpose or substancial enough plot to go back and visit these characters. I'm not opposed to watching them at all or even having them around, though. They just...need to be done right. <br /> <br /> A lot of the original writers and such are no longer around, so that causes a problem in trying to recreate the feel of the originals the older the movie is. Not to mention the children ones are usually terrible because it's just the kid doing the same thing the parent did. You're sitting at home predicting the movie because you've seen this before <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />. I don't think I'd mind an Aladdin and Jasmine kid story (although that was really hard to type just now; I think I'm lying <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />) as long as it wasn't Aladdin 2.0. I'd much rather prefer a story with Aladdin and Jasmine with their child in it rather than one about the child, but it's all in how it's made and who does it because that could suck, too. I don't know how much Ron and John have followed Aladdin and Jasmine past the original, so I don't even know if I'd want them to touch it either because there's yeeears of development I don't want lost there.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:13 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">That's something bothers me more and more as I age, the idea that as soon as you have kids your life is pretty much over and nothing interesting will ever happen to you again. Aladdin and Jasmine have a lot of enemies by KoT, and I doubt they'd all just give up as soon as Jasmine gets pregnant. I mean, if I were one of the villains, I'd see that as an opportunity to strike, when they're weakest. <img src="images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif" alt="Twisted Evil" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>persian85033</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:44 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">True, it might be all right if the original crew were involved. ABout next generation movies, you're right. They do suck. Everything sucks. They don't wanna hire them this summer, cause they don't work, I heard on the news. Too true. I had enough of them back in high school. Ugh. Of course, RoJ, and KoT were all right. I think it's precisely because they didn't have kids, and were still having adventures.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:35 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Right after KoT came out there were rumors that they might make more movies just about Genie, and a couple of years after that there was a rumor they might make one about Al and Jas's son, but all of that turned out to be unfounded. <br /> <br />I don't want to jump on the bandwagon and say "ew, all sequels suck and make the characters OOC!!!1", because then I'd be just like all the people who complain about RoJ and KoT without seeing them. But I would be extremely skeptical of any new sequel that came out now, especially if no one from the movie or the series was involved (like in that Jasmine OVA), and especially if it's about Al and Jas's kids. The "next generation" movies tend to be particularly bad. <img src="images/smiles/icon_confused.gif" alt="Confused" border="0" /> <br /> <br />I know Lasseter has said he didn't want Disney to make any more sequels if the people who made the original weren't involved, but that Tinkerbell movie is still coming out: they didn't cancel it, they just put it on hiatus until they came up with a better script, and it looks like Andreas Deja is involved with it now in some capacity... So maybe it's not "no sequels" so much as "no sequels unless there's a good story, and we put our best people on it". And if that is the direction they're going then I'd feel a little better about if they <span style="font-style: italic">did</span> make another sequel, although it would be even more unlikely now... (Although after all that the Tinkerbell movie may still turn out to be crap, in which case forget I ever said this. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> ) So, basically I have no idea. <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>persian85033</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:18 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">NO! I think that most Disney sequels suck because they've turned all my favorite characters into worrywart parents! They're not them! My brother, who's not a Disney fan, and has seen TLM, maybe only once, told me when he watched TLM 2, he was like that's not Ariel. Simba, either. And it obviously isn't. That's why I refused to add it to my collection. They can't ruin Al and Jas, too.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Syera</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:46 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">99% of all Disney sequels with the above plots suck horribly, probably partially <span style="font-style: italic">because</span> they use the above plots. The second and third plots have been done several times in the series, and for the most part were done reasonably well. This can partially be attributed to the fact that some things just work better for a 15 minute cartoon episode than a feature-length movie. <br /> <br />The two sequels to Aladdin had a purpose: to open and close the TV series. If by this point they made a fourth movie, it would probably be one of their quick cash moneymaking schemes, written by people who are talentless hacks and/or just don't care enough about the original characters' personalities to make anything halfway decent. <br /> <br />I would wager that it's highly unlikely that Disney will make a fourth Aladdin movie. The trailer for KoT <span style="font-style: italic">did</span> refer to the it as the "third and final chapter."</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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