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Who is the main character of "Aladdin"?
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[quote="Salukfan"]Two more sections, since both are so short. One more section after these two, on the music. ABOUT THE PRODUCTION Origins of the Story: In the first "Aladdin" film, Aladdin and Jasmine met and fell in love. In "The Return of Jafar," that love was threatened. Now, it's time for them to take the final step. "The first two movies left some unfinished business," says scriptwriters Mark McCorkle and Robert Schooley. "Aladdin and Jasmine's wedding was not only the most logical story line, it's the one everybody has been waiting for! Since weddings are about family, we decided to explore Aladdin's past. In the first movie, Aladdin thought he didn't have a family, that he was an orphan. Now we find out that's not true. There's an aspect to his life he was completely unaware of, and this door opens, leading to a whole new story, one full of adventure, drama, and excitement." Having grown up on his own, living a day-to-day and hand-to-mouth existence as a "street rat," Aladdin now faces real responsibility for the first time in his life-- and like most young people, he's worried. According to Sharon Morrill, Vice President of Direct to Video, Walt Disney Television Animation: "Because he has had no role model as an example, nothing to draw on, Aladdin questions what kind of husband he will be. On discovering that his father is actually still alive, Aladdin vows to find him. He has to face his past in order to choose his future." For writers McCorkle and Schooley, it was both a challenge and a pleasure to carry on the "Aladdin" tradition. "Our major responsibility was keeping the vision of the original movie," comment the writers. THE ANIMATION PROCESS It was a responsibility shared by producer/director Tad Stones, who was also dedicated to retaining the quality of the original film. He and his top production team of over 400 artists devoted two years to preparing, developing, and executing the artistry of ALADDIN AND THE KING OF THIEVES, and the final adventure glows with lavish, imaginative visuals. Beginning with the initial concept for the picture's overall look, the artists had "strong ideas about the way the color was going to tell the story." For example, color plays an enormous part in the effectiveness of the fight sequence in the cave of the 40 Thieves, when Aladdin battles Sa'luk. Dramatic lighting effects and a primal red and blue color scheme heighten the drama. According to Stones, "The Thieves were given a color palette of blues and purples, while their hideout is printed in oranges and reds. The Sultan and Jasmine are dressed in warm colors which contrast with the cool hues of the Palace and the wedding pavilion." Equal time and care were taken in the development of the individual characters. Video footage of Robin Williams recording the voice of Genie was studied. Williams' body language and hilarious expressions are unmistakable in the animation of Genie. Stones adds "Robin Williams' energy is high-octane stuff, and we incorporated all that mayhem into the animation of Genie." A whirlwind of comic invention, Williams' quicksilver vocal performance inspired the animators to create visual effects that were just as outrageous as the actor's line delivery. "We encouraged Robin to go crazy," says Stone. "Actually, he didn't need much encouragement! We created an entirely new sequence to make the best use of his ad-libs." The "Lifestyles of the Rich and Magical" take-off, a nonstop sequence of sight gags and hilarious non sequiturs, gets the wedding of Jasmine and Aladdin, and the entire movie, off to an outrageously madcap start. The animators especially enjoyed the opportunity to create an all-important new character in the saga, Aladdin's father, Cassim. The actually built on the bone structure of Aladdin himself as a basis for the design, to portray a "family resemblance." "With this movie, we are returning to the fantasy world of the Arabian Nights,' says Stones. "We've got scores of talented artists, both here and around the world, and some of the best behind-the-scenes musical teams, not to mention a stellar cast of voice actors. ALADDIN AND THE KING OF THIEVES is really something special."[/quote]
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AladdinsGenie
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:17 pm
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This just reminds me of how much I wish I could see them now after marriage
Salukfan
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:09 pm
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Maybe they originally wanted him to live in the palace but the censors wouldn't accept it, so they just had to avoid all references to it? And at a certain point they just said, "screw it! We'll just put him back in the hovel!"
That's probably it.
I think someone (in, um, some interview) said they didn't want Aladdin/Jasmine to be married because it limited them... maybe this stemmed from the same issue? It separated Aladdin/Jasmine a bit, allowed more exploration in the relationship without a marriage being involved (I think the perception of Sadira would have been different had she been trying to remove a wife, rather than a girlfriend.. if she even would have gone that far. It's a different level...), and changed the dynamic.
Calluna
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:31 pm
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Salukfan wrote:
Re-watching "Forget Me Lots."
Iago says "I won't miss visiting the palace!" This is a really early episode (and we thank it for elongating the time line
)... which implies that Aladdin doesn't live in the palace.
... clearly thinking about this too much was a mistake.
Is it possible that maybe Aladdin was living there but Iago was not? Because, in retrospect, the line right before that, where Rasoul says Aladdin's "back in the gutter where he belongs" sounds like he
was
living there... My head hurts.
In "Some Enchanted Genie" they were
probably
in the hovel, right after that is "The Vapor Chase" where they definitely were, next is "The Day the Bird Stood Still", in which living in the hovel is a big part of the plot.
Kind of strange how they were vague about where he was living for over a year (in story) but all of a sudden there are a bunch of episodes where he's explicitly living in the hovel? Maybe they originally wanted him to live in the palace but the censors wouldn't accept it, so they just had to avoid all references to it? And at a certain point they just said, "screw it! We'll just put him back in the hovel!"
Salukfan
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:34 pm
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Re-watching "Forget Me Lots."
Iago says "I won't miss visiting the palace!" This is a really early episode (and we thank it for elongating the time line
)... which implies that Aladdin doesn't live in the palace.
... clearly thinking about this too much was a mistake.
AladdinsGenie
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:20 pm
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Yeah, they totally did something they weren't suppose to
Salukfan
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:16 pm
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Does "Love At First Sprite" happen before that? They might be banned from the palace for something they did/broke/etc. that we don't know about
It does happen first, actually.
That could make sense...
Now that I think of it, Genie/Iago/Carpet are chillin' in the palace at the start of "The Wind Jackals of Mozenrath" and Iago says that he can't remember the last time Aladdin let them do that. I can-- "Power to the Parrot"... which didn't end up so well.
AladdinsGenie
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:48 pm
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Calluna wrote:
It sounds like they're usually not allowed to stay, but Jasmine's making an exception just this once. Maybe it's only Iago who's not allowed, and everyone else is staying out too to spare his feelings.
Does "Love At First Sprite" happen before that? They might be banned from the palace for something they did/broke/etc. that we don't know about
Salukfan wrote:
Or, in the realm of "...well, they do kiss
a lot
," maybe things almost went too far and they decided that it's just better for everyone if they live apart?
That would explain why they practically grope each other every time they meet up
Salukfan
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:45 pm
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I'm trying to figure out when it officially went back to "the gang lives in the hovel," rather than the palace.
It just occurred to me that in "Scare Necessities," Iago and Abu take Squirt back to the hovel in the middle of the night.... and Genie shows up, in the morning, to take Squirt back. Obviously Aladdin didn't sleep there that night. Unless he got the benefit of "... you got me a locket, you sleep in a nice bed tonight," he wasn't living the hovel.
That episode is about 10 after "Vapor Chase...." so unless they just put the gang in the hovel for a plot contrivance, something's kinda weird there
Of course, VC aired before SN, but that's also not the best evidence of a straight storyline. We go to "Poor Iago" (five eps after SN) and Aladdin's living in the hovel again.
Jasmine's "... just for tonight" kind of implies that she orchestrated Aladdin going back to hovel land.
Maybe the move happened because she and Aladdin realized that they weren't going to get married for a while and still needed time to live apart and have separate lives? Or, in the realm of "...well, they do kiss
a lot
," maybe things almost went too far and they decided that it's just better for everyone if they live apart?
Calluna
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:32 pm
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I think you're probably right.
The only thing I can't explain, though, is that scene in From Hippsodeth With Love:
Iago: Well, guess we're staying here [at the palace] tonight!
Jasmine: Just for tonight.
It sounds like they're usually not allowed to stay, but Jasmine's making an exception just this once. Maybe it's only Iago who's not allowed, and everyone else is staying out too to spare his feelings.
Salukfan
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:25 pm
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Maybe they put it in, then realized afterward that it'd be better to have a place outside of the palace/a place for the "guys."
I'm looking at the production order and we don't see Aladdin's hovel for quite a while. We see it in "My Fair Aladdin," but that's not real evidence that he lives there... in so much as he went back there after humiliating himself. I'll take "Some Enchanted Genie" as a reference to it (because how else could Abis Mal have just bothered Aladdin/Abu/Genie in the taking of the lamp? I imagine Iago just rolled over, said "screw it" and went back to sleep.
) We don't actually see them
living
there until "The Vapor Chase."
I could be missing something here (forgotten stuff in the hovel, etc), but it seems like they ended up living in the hovel again out of convenience, rather than it being something they planned on the entire time.
Calluna
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:02 pm
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Yeah, but the same people who wrote RoJ wrote the series, so if they knew they were going to have to backpeddle on that, why put it in? It's not really necessary...
AladdinsGenie
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:42 pm
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Yeah, cause couples who are engaged don't move in with each other before they're married. They gotta be married or no dice. They'll be heathens!!
I hate people sometimes
Salukfan
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:12 pm
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You know, I thought that was just Iago misreading the situation, but if the press kit's saying it, too...
I wouldn't be surprised if they just took Iago's line and went with it, without paying attention to the fact that he doesn't live there in the series... or that him living there means that Aladdin and Jasmine are an unwed, live-in teenage couple and that may offend someone.
AladdinsGenie
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:02 pm
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He ended up realizing he liked it more at his hovel and decided to stay there? That "you murdered my father!!" situation was too much for him to handle
Calluna
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:58 pm
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Salukfan wrote:
* Aladdin lives in the palace and "spends his time redistributing the stolen treasure of a stolen treasure of a despicable thief named Abis Mal."
You know, I thought that was just Iago misreading the situation, but if the press kit's saying it, too...
What exactly did Aladdin do after RoJ to get himself kicked out of the palace?
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