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Who is the main character of "Aladdin"?
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[quote="Joblom"][quote="Jasmine9"] And although it's a bit anachronistic, couldn't you guys totally see Jafar and Mirage hooking up? They're both the same kind of evil.[/quote] To be honest I can't see her hooking up with anybody, but the "Lost Ones" episode where she tries to get Aladdin has per "personal manservant" made me raise an eyebrow. Must be pretty lonely not having any sidekicks. That said, Deviantart is filled with enough Mozenrath/Aladdin art that I don't think you can really call that "unconventional" anymore...[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Meesh</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:45 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I love that artist. I have fav'd like half of her gallery. <br /> <br />I never liked the idea of pairing Moz with Jasmine or Sadira, but it's been growing on me that more I see fanart about it.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 3:50 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I don't know, I have trouble shipping Mozenrath with anyone. I just recently started kinda liking Mozenrath/Sadira through fanart, but he just doesn't come off to me as being someone who would do well in a relationship, particularly with the members of the gang. I feel like their personalities are opposites, but not in a complimentary way.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:10 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Booncy wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Salukfan wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">-Jasmine and Zorasto <br /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Was Zorasto one of the Riders of Ramon?</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />No, but you're on the right track! He was the leader of the Marauders.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Booncy</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:51 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Salukfan wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">-Jasmine and Zorasto <br /></td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Was Zorasto one of the Riders of Ramon?</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Calluna</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:14 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">No, what she meant is that Aladdin and Mozenrath being brothers is just a rumor.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Booncy</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:09 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">True, but I like the idea of Mozenrath & Jasmine's relationship having a Bonnie & Clyde type of feel to it, even if it is someone else's fanon POV of how their relationship would play out <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" />! IMHO I can see why that person would view them that way just based on how they physically compliment each other alone. <br /> <br />I'd really love the couple <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">more</span></span> If Mozenrath were good & had the flesh & muscle back on his hand <img src="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" />. <br /> <br />Edit: If you were talking about the Aladdin & Mozenrath just being brothers thing being a piece of fanon that I don't have to use if I don't want too, I <span style="font-style: italic">still</span> personally see it as partially-canon since it was in the original script to KoT before Robin Williams came back. Even if I did write my own Aladdin & Mozenrath fanfiction the thought of Aladdin & Mozenrath possibly being brothers will always be a thought in the back of my mind ever since I had found out/read the info for the original script to KoT, so I think that either way (canon or fanon) I will always sorta view them as brothers.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jafaria</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:53 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Psst, that's just a piece of fanon. You don't have to use it if you don't want to.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Booncy</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:42 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Mozenrath x Jasmine <br />Mozenrath x Sadira <br />Aladdin x Sadira <br /> <br />are my favorite ones <img src="images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif" alt="Very Happy" border="0" />! I could never ship the Aladdin x Mozenrath one after finding out that they could be brothers <img src="images/smiles/icon_confused.gif" alt="Confused" border="0" />. <br /> <br />Also fanart drawings & pictures of Mozenrath x Jasmine on deviantart.com made me really like the couple. <br /> <br /><a href="http://scaragh.deviantart.com/art/Puttin-on-the-ritz-101689968" target="_blank" class="postlink">http://scaragh.deviantart.com/art/Puttin-on-the-ritz-101689968</a> <br /><a href="http://scaragh.deviantart.com/art/MJ-breakfast-107429874" target="_blank" class="postlink">http://scaragh.deviantart.com/art/MJ-breakfast-107429874</a> <br /><a href="http://scaragh.deviantart.com/art/Antiphony-Sunset-rough-99404638" target="_blank" class="postlink">http://scaragh.deviantart.com/art/Antiphony-Sunset-rough-99404638</a> <br /><a href="http://mozenrath.deviantart.com/art/Look-Out-Dark-Sorcerer-NO-FAV-96600499" target="_blank" class="postlink">http://mozenrath.deviantart.com/art/Look-Out-Dark-Sorcerer-NO-FAV-96600499</a> <br /><a href="http://scaragh.deviantart.com/art/Danger-102158646" target="_blank" class="postlink">http://scaragh.deviantart.com/art/Danger-102158646</a> <br /><a href="http://scaragh.deviantart.com/art/The-Secret-of-Dagger-Rock-96170265" target="_blank" class="postlink">http://scaragh.deviantart.com/art/The-Secret-of-Dagger-Rock-96170265</a> <br /><a href="http://scaragh.deviantart.com/art/Antiphony-Chapter-21-96171627" target="_blank" class="postlink">http://scaragh.deviantart.com/art/Antiphony-Chapter-21-96171627</a> <br /> <br />Their looks really complement each other moreso than Aladdin x Jasmine IMHO, and they seem to have this sorta Bonnie & Clyde/equal dynamic & feel to their relationship.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Joblom</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:36 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I think it's probably been... oh... a decade since I watched Aladdin. Nonetheless, I really think that he was just showing off his power at the end. I'm sure that Jafar could be attracted to someone, maybe even more than just physically, but I don't think he could ever <span style="font-style: italic">love</span> someone. At least, not in a caring sort of way, if that makes any sense. Most villainous people probably aren't capable of that. <br /> <br />It might make for an interesting story though, however I can't imagine Disney wanting to pick that up. <img src="images/smiles/icon_wink.gif" alt="Wink" border="0" /></span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:35 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I can never really get past it in my own mind that he probably thought she was a complete pain in the ass, and wouldn't want anything to do with her past what he needs her for, and in the case of the movie, a faster way of getting to the throne to become sultan once that idea was planted in his head. <br /> <br />Once he got to that point and then some without her, everything after was a display of his unstoppable power and how she (or her father, really) can't do anything about it this time, his ability to force a very proud and headstrong person into submission when he's more than aware she doesn't like that and has been fighting against submitting to something or someone she doesn't want to the whole movie (which might have been where all that sexual frustration came from as a result. A fiery and independent person like Jasmine being basically your slave and doing <span style="font-style: italic">whatever</span> you want after so much resistance? Oh yeah, he'd be all for that. He likes that sort of thing <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />), and his dominance over her when he's now the one calling the shots and she's the one force to comply. Not that I can't ever see him being attracted to <span style="font-style: italic">someone</span>, but Jafar's dealings with Jasmine would be strictly business. Twisted business in some cases probably, but business. If anyone grew a soft spot for Jasmine in the palace, it was Iago <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" /> <br /> <br />I've also entertained the notion that he was just ever so tipsy when he was talking to Jasmine and some of that was the alcohol talking (which I'm surprised no one has ever yelled at this movie for. Maybe they remembered the Caliphs had wine, too, when they shouldn't be since that's a big religious no-no <img src="images/smiles/icon_lol.gif" alt="Laughing" border="0" />. That might be reading more into the power thing, too).</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jasmine9</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:56 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Jafar it seems is the kind of the bureaucrat to marry purely for practical reasons</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />I can see this angle, but I always kind of thought Jafar still had a thing for Jasmine regardless - like from the fact that he wished, at the end of the first movie,"for Princess Jasmine to fall desperately in love" with him, despite the fact that he no longer needed her for any kind of power (as he was "the most powerful sorcerer in the world"). Although it could just be that he's physically attracted to her (I can't really imagine a sociopath like Jafar having real feelings of love) or it could be some kind of status thing ("look at me I have power and a hot princess!"), or adding insult to injury against the royal family ("I took over your throne <i>and</i> your daughter! Huzzah!"), or it could be simple malice and spite.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Joblom</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:19 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>AladdinsGenie wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Meh, ff.net is flooded with Jasmine or Aladdin/Jafar stuff, too, but this fandom is small enough that coming up with a pairing and getting a couple fans for it is going to be half way on the way to unconventional anyways.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Jasmine x Jafar would be pretty depressing I imagine. Jafar it seems is the kind of the bureaucrat to marry purely for practical reasons. He'd have none of that Disney happily ever after nonsense.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>AladdinsGenie</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:34 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Meh, ff.net is flooded with Jasmine or Aladdin/Jafar stuff, too, but this fandom is small enough that coming up with a pairing and getting a couple fans for it is going to be half way on the way to unconventional anyways.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Joblom</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:40 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span> <table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Jasmine9 wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br /> <br />And although it's a bit anachronistic, couldn't you guys totally see Jafar and Mirage hooking up? They're both the same kind of evil.</td> </tr> </table> <span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />To be honest I can't see her hooking up with anybody, but the "Lost Ones" episode where she tries to get Aladdin has per "personal manservant" made me raise an eyebrow. <br /> <br />Must be pretty lonely not having any sidekicks. <br /> <br />That said, Deviantart is filled with enough Mozenrath/Aladdin art that I don't think you can really call that "unconventional" anymore...</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jasmine9</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 11:49 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Hey, no booing flutes! I'm a professional flutist! (Insert joke here, here, and here, haha). <br /> <br />Sorry I keep coming around and resurrecting ooold topics... this website is not only addictive but a safe-house for those of us who reeeally don't want to be too old to obsess over Aladdin! (I made an Aladdin joke to my 12-year-old flute student the other day and she had no idea what I was talking about. Not only was it incredibly depressing, but it's the first time in my twenty-one years I've felt old...) <br /> <br />Anyway, getting back on topic... <br />I fully support the theory that Iago has a crush on Jasmine. I always thought that during "Eye of the Beholder" because it was just so out of the blue for Iago to freak out about (that said, it was probably just for plot purposes) but then I also noticed it in the episode where Abis Mal and Mechanicles team up (I think it was "The Flawed Couple") and put those mood stones on the gang. Iago falls in love with Jasmine. Although it was just because of the stone, I always liked to think it had been deep in his subconscious for a long time <img src="images/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" border="0" />. <br />I also like the idea of Jasmine having a crush on Jafar as a little girl. He has a certain regal-ness about him. I couldn't really see her going for Rasoul, with the missing tooth and all, haha. <br /> <br />I really like the Jasmine/Mozenrath idea but I think it would have to be sneaky. If someone hasn't already done this in a fan-fic, I think it would be a great idea: Mozenrath tricking Jasmine by switching bodies with Aladdin (IE "Two to Tangle") and then marrying her or something. I mean she'd eventually figure it out and totally destroy him, but it would make a great fan-fic! I also like the Mozenrath-Sadira combo, because as street smart as Sadira is, she seems kind of naive and, from a psychological standpoint (I know, I'm a nerd) could be very vulnerable to someone as powerful as Mozenrath. <br /> <br />And although it's a bit anachronistic, couldn't you guys totally see Jafar and Mirage hooking up? They're both the same kind of evil.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/subBlack/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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