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Calluna
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| rn wrote: |
I was not the one who put those on. I just "stumbled" upon them. My youtube name is rnazar.
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I meant thanks for the link. 
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rn
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Calluna wrote: |
| rn wrote: |
I was not the one who put those on. I just "stumbled" upon them. My youtube name is rnazar.
This member's profile says this person is from your country. |
I meant thanks for the link. |
I know
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| AladdinsGenie wrote: |
I like Aladdin's Arabic singing voice. Jasmine's is kinda "eh". But man, I keep forgetting how harsh a language that is. They were struggling with some of those parts  |
Arabic is acually a beautiful language. I didn't find any struggling.
In the first chorus of "Prince Ali", the genie, in the line "Show some respect" actually says "yellah" or something like that, meaning "Hurry up"
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AladdinsGenie
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Oh, I agree it's beautiful, but it just sounded harsh in some parts which I called a "struggle". The real back of the throat words.
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Syera
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| Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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I just listened to the Arabic version and I didn't find it harsh at all. But then again, my aunt taught me to make those sounds when I was about four years old, so...
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rn
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One Jump Ahead
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Arabian Knight
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There is one bad thing about Disney movies and cartoons in Arabic, they are all in the Egyption accent!
I don't mean any disrespect to Egyptions or their accent, but there is an ORIGINAL OFFICIAL UNITED Arabic accent that all Arabs agree on and use it in their media known as "Literary Arabic".
Arabs consider literary Arabic as the original standard language and tend to view everything else as mere dialects.
Its the same accent that was used in the original Arabian Nights stories in the past and it is the most beutiful Arabic accent. In reality, any one who spoke Arabic back at Aladdin's time would have used this accent.
Although no one today speaks it at home, its still used on everyday reading and writing and even most Arabic cartoons and translated TV shows use this accent because there are countless arabic accents that vary alot from each other that many Arabs can't understand all other Arabic accents!
In fact, all Arabic shows I know that tell stories from historic times like Aladdin use this accent because it was the accent used in ancient times, and even Disney Arabic magazines use this accent because all other accents such as Egyption are not typically written.
I hope Disney fixes this mistake!
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AladdinsGenie
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| Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe that would get rid of some of that "OMG WHY DO ALL THE BAD GUYS HAVE ARAB ACCENTS AND NOT THE GOOD GUYS?!?!" claims, too since they're probably going off that stererotypical Arab accent sound, too |
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rn
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| Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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There is one bad thing about Disney movies and cortoons in Arabic, there all in the Egyptian accent!
I don't mean any disrespect to Egyptians or their accent, but there is an ORIGINAL OFFICIAL UNITED Arabic accent that all Arabs agree on and use it in their media known as "Literary Arabic". |
Yes, the Arabic language accent and dialect differs in each country. But for the media purposes I also do not get why they dont use an official united accent.
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Although no one today speaks it at home, its still used on everyday reading and writing and even most Arabic cartoons and translated TV shows use this accent because there are countless arabic accents that vary alot from each other that many Arabs can't understand all other Arabic accents!
In fact, all Arabic shows I know that tell stories from historic times like Aladdin use this accent because it was the accent used in ancient times, and even Disney Arabic magazines use this accent because all other accents such as Egyptian are not typically written.
I hope Disney fixes this mistake! |
This message should be sent to www.disneyme.com (The official Middle east disney site).
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| Maybe that would get rid of some of that "OMG WHY DO ALL THE BAD GUYS HAVE ARAB ACCENTS AND NOT THE GOOD GUYS?!?!" claims, too since they're probably going off that stererotypical Arab accent sound, too |
Aren't the palace guards protagonists for the series?
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Calluna
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| AladdinsGenie wrote: |
| Maybe that would get rid of some of that "OMG WHY DO ALL THE BAD GUYS HAVE ARAB ACCENTS AND NOT THE GOOD GUYS?!?!" claims, too since they're probably going off that stererotypical Arab accent sound, too |
Aren't the palace guards protagonists for the series? |
On the same side as Aladdin, but they still don't like him very much. Actually, even in the first movie I think the guards had American accents. Or at least Rasoul and Hakim did; not sure about the others.
If the Egyptian dialect is so different from classical Arabic I'm surprised they didn't make more than one translation, since they did that with other languages (two French, two Portuguese, at least three Spanish).
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rn
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| Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| rn wrote: |
| AladdinsGenie wrote: |
| Maybe that would get rid of some of that "OMG WHY DO ALL THE BAD GUYS HAVE ARAB ACCENTS AND NOT THE GOOD GUYS?!?!" claims, too since they're probably going off that stererotypical Arab accent sound, too |
Aren't the palace guards protagonists for the series? |
On the same side as Aladdin, but they still don't like him very much. Actually, even in the first movie I think the guards had American accents. Or at least Rasoul and Hakim did; not sure about the others.
If the Egyptian dialect is so different from classical Arabic I'm surprised they didn't make more than one translation, since they did that with other languages (two French, two Portuguese, at least three Spanish). |
About Rasoul, that we know, because we know Pete (Goofy's neighbour on Goof Troop) and how he sounds like, It is the same person.
P.S. You're missing Chinese, of which there are at least 3 seperate Translations (Cantonese, Mandarin, and Thai)
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DesertBloom92
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| Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Arabian Knight wrote: |
There is one bad thing about Disney movies and cartoons in Arabic, they are all in the Egyption accent!
I don't mean any disrespect to Egyptions or their accent, but there is an ORIGINAL OFFICIAL UNITED Arabic accent that all Arabs agree on and use it in their media known as "Literary Arabic".
Arabs consider literary Arabic as the original standard language and tend to view everything else as mere dialects.
Its the same accent that was used in the original Arabian Nights stories in the past and it is the most beutiful Arabic accent. In reality, any one who spoke Arabic back at Aladdin's time would have used this accent.
Although no one today speaks it at home, its still used on everyday reading and writing and even most Arabic cartoons and translated TV shows use this accent because there are countless arabic accents that vary alot from each other that many Arabs can't understand all other Arabic accents!
In fact, all Arabic shows I know that tell stories from historic times like Aladdin use this accent because it was the accent used in ancient times, and even Disney Arabic magazines use this accent because all other accents such as Egyption are not typically written.
I hope Disney fixes this mistake! |
HOLY HECK!!FINNALYYY SOMEONE FOUND IT!!! and thanks RN for finding them! arabic is such a beautiful language.and THANK YOU .THANK YOU .THAnK YOU! ..
.i agree with AK ....I understand arabic PERFECTLY ..but im more familar with the leabeanse way of speacking it ..and yes modern time.but mainly where is the arabic all arabians can undersatnd )..but egypitain is a bit difficult..but i understood sum of the lyrics in the songs. yeah they should of put it in just plain and simple arabic we all(arabic speakerrs)know.
i showed it to mom so far ..and she easily recognized it was the egypitain way ...but heck she knew it perfectly...anyways..now my life is complete! |
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rn
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HOLY HECK!!FINNALYYY SOMEONE FOUND IT!!! and thanks RN for finding them! arabic is such a beautiful language.and THANK YOU .THANK YOU .THAnK YOU! ..
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Is this (شكرا ) Shukran by the way? My mom was born in Lebanon in 1944, though she was living here in Quebec since 1962; My dad was born in Egypt in 1936, but he moved out in 1960's and spent 4 years in Brazil before coming to Canada (I am Armenian, by thwe way). He died in 1997. He was often speaking in Arabic to some of his friends, and so I picked up one or two words. At the time, besides swearing, I only knew one word: Hamdullah.
I hope I got this right, Desert Bloom 92:
كان أنت مرحب.
This comes from http://www.appliedlanguage.com/free_translation.shtml
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Arabian Knight
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| Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| DesertBloom92 wrote: |
HOLY HECK!!FINNALYYY SOMEONE FOUND IT!!! and thanks RN for finding them! arabic is such a beautiful language.and THANK YOU .THANK YOU .THAnK YOU! ..
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Is this (شكرا ) Shukran by the way? My mom was born in Lebanon in 1944, though she was living here in Quebec since 1962; My dad was born in Egypt in 1936, but he moved out in 1960's and spent 4 years in Brazil before coming to Canada (I am Armenian, by thwe way). He died in 1997. He was often speaking in Arabic to some of his friends, and so I picked up one or two words. At the time, besides swearing, I only knew one word: Hamdullah.
I hope I got this right, Desert Bloom 92:
كان أنت مرحب.
This comes from http://www.appliedlanguage.com/free_translation.shtml |
you got the letters right in Shukran, but if you want to be more accurate, you shuld put ( ً ) in the end like this شكراً because without it it would actually be read "Shukra" without the letter "N" in English (I hope I didn't confuse you!) 
The one word you knew is actualy two words wich are "Alhamdu lillah" wich means "thank God", but can you translate what you meant in your last Arabic words كان أنت مرحب because it didn't make any sence, its like you were trying to say you were welcome, but in a wrong way!
Sorry about your father's death.
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Come on down, stop on by
Hop a carpet and fly
To another Arabian Night
Come on down, come on in
Let the magic begin
It's another Arabian Night!
Call it mad, call it crazed
But let Allah be praised
It's another Arabian Night! |
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