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dazzeling diamond · Posted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject:

Hey Newbie! lol, jks!

I agree, with everything you said, and it isn't interesting that she doesn't have a dress/skirt ensemble (her culture would definitely have a traditional skirt style outfit, I know that) or have her OWN movie, because Aladdin...is technically Aladdin's!

Raja · Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject:

yeah, yeah, yeah....at least you agree with me Very Happy

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AladdinsGenie · Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:56 am Post subject:

The ones you named for her being strong are ones where Aladdin is out of commission somewhere or at some point, which would call for Jasmine to take over, and then ones where you named she's not are ones where she's the one out of commission and Aladdin has to help. That might be why she's kicking butt some days and not in others because the show IS called Disney's Aladdin Laughing

. Plus, she tried to escape the Gallifemmes and Arbutus, so it's not like she sat there and waited to be rescued.

Mariposa79 · Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:03 pm Post subject:

The things that I like about Jasmine is that she is the FIRST! The FIRST Princess to break off from the fairest of them all in Disney cartoon movies. She's independant, she can be a warrior princess if she wanted to. She stood by in what she believes. Haha she the first Princess to wear Pants. She fit in more of a today's women in which back then was unacceptable.

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AladdinsGenie · Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:59 pm Post subject:

...I'm failing to understand how her getting captured is "out of character" Laughing

. Jasmine is by no means invincible, even if she knows how to fight.

Even Aladdin gets captured, but that doesn't make it out of character for him to be captured despite knowing fighting techniques and occasionally crying out Jasmine's name when she's taken from him, too.

Salukfan · Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:11 pm Post subject:

I wanted to say the same thing as AG, but she beat me to it. Laughing

Arbitius and the Galifemes aren't exactly the easiest villains to defeat, no matter who you are.

Arbitius is determined to "collect his debt" against the Sultan-- Jasmine got kidnapped because nobody expected her to be the debt and besides, she was asleep when she became trapped in his vines. Arbitius also had one weakness- that flower, which Aladdin kinda dumb-lucked into finding. Laughing

The Galifemes are incredibly powerful warrior women who've demolished kingdoms simply because they didn't like the ruler. Jasmine tried to escape, couldn't, and decided to join them to by time and find another way out. That's hardly weak. It also took Aladdin/Abu being captors, Genie taking out all the sentries/guards, and Sultan attacking Hippsodeth/Scara to be able to get all of them out of there, let alone just Jasmine.

Jasmine does miss a lot of episodes, but I don't think that's a slight against the character. I hate to bring gender into it, but the series is kind of a male-oriented one: it's action-adventure, there's a vast majority of male characters to female ones... the series did a great job of including Jasmine when she was present in the episode (and definitely included a ton of romantic elements), but they often wanted to do a "guy" story and, well, Jasmine kinda makes that more difficult. Laughing

The only characters to make every episode are Genie/Abu; even Aladdin doesn't have that. Laughing

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AladdinsGenie · Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject:

Yeah, plus I think it puts everyone on an even level and brings an awareness in the group that no one can escape danger, magic powers or not. If she was never caught, I'd have to wonder what makes her so special.

Calluna · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:44 am Post subject:

*scans the thread to make sure I haven't said this already*

This is one of the pitfalls of a long-running fandom. Laughing

Salukfan · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:49 pm Post subject:

... excellent point. I never thought of how the character focus changed throughout, but yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

I know that Jasmine misses some episodes because she's on diplomatic tours with the Sultan and doing official business. And, of course, there are some episodes where, had Jasmine been present, she would have been all "oh, stop being stupid, guys" and derailed the plot. Laughing

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Salukfan · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:31 pm Post subject:

I'm sorry, but I'm not really getting your argument. Confused

There's an important precedent of Jasmine being "trapped" in the original film, by Jafar. It doesn't make Jasmine any weaker. Had it not been for Jafar's incredible power-mongering, Aladdin wouldn't have beaten him either!

The only "Princess" character who actually fights a villain herself (as far as the original films go) is Mulan. It doesn't make Snow, Cinderella, Aurora, Ariel, Belle, Jasmine, or Pocahontas weaker characters for it.

And Jasmine does rebel against her captors during the series, unless it's in the best interest of her kingdom to not fight. In those situations, she's aware that her duty as a royal/being unselfish for her people is more important than her personal self-interest. I think that makes her stronger, not weaker.
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