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AladdinsGenie Genie of the Messageboard

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Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Salukfan wrote: |
There's an important precedent of Jasmine being "trapped" in the original film, by Jafar. It doesn't make Jasmine any weaker. Had it not been for Jafar's incredible power-mongering, Aladdin wouldn't have beaten him either! |
Yeah, the whole reason why she's captured in the first place is because of Aladdin's misdoing in both Disney's version, and even more so illustrated in the original story. He aquired everything, including the princess, under false terms, so when it's all taken away from him, he has to get everything back by himself because this is his fault and he has to fix it. If she would have been able to get out of that situation by herself, what is that saying to us? "Oh, you got me into this mess and I'll get myself out of it. Don't worry ?" What would he have learned from that? He had to be the one to get them out of the situation he was responsible for putting them there. |
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A Whole New World Agrabah Citizen

Joined: 14 Mar 2008 Posts: 59
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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Oh no,it's not an argument .
You don't have to physically fight to be a hero but getting captured does make you weaker,and Jasmine wasn't captured in the movie,she got trapped but it's really not like how what happened to her in Garden Of Evil and Sultan Worth His Salt,in the movie she's strong and it's okay she didn't fought Jafar,and I don't count the series as chronology. _________________
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AladdinsGenie Genie of the Messageboard

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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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See, I personally don't think getting captured makes you weaker. It's like saying if I get a D on my essay, it makes me dumber . I can still be smart and have a bad grade, just like I think Jasmine can be captured (or enslaved and then literally trapped, if we're using just the first movie) and still be considered strong and a great fighter. |
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Meesh Magic Carpet

Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 3629 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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I'd call her weak (especially mentally) if she made no effort to escape or resist and if she cowered or gave up instead... Or if she put her own life ahead of her friends. Like said, "Take them not me!" or "you're on your own. this is too dangerous." But she never does that, so really she is quite strong.
I think iago can sometimes be weak in that aspect... But in several instances he is stronger.
Also, she always manages to escape/be rescued (usually with her assistance)
I think if she were physically as strong as Aladdin, they'd be equals. _________________
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A Whole New World Agrabah Citizen

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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:37 am Post subject: |
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You do have a point,also if she gets captured that also doesn't make her a damsel in distress or something,still,I don't think she should get captured ,and yeah,Iago is a "Take them not me!" person. _________________
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Meesh Magic Carpet

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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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I personally like episodes when she gets captured because I'm a cornball hopeless romantic and love to see Aladdin rescue her.
Makes me want to be rescued <3  _________________
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A Whole New World Agrabah Citizen

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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Why do you think getting captured is romantic?.
And I found this comment on the Streetrat blog (Great blog by the way ) and I wanted to say something about this comment:
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I like princess jasmine because she wears sparkling things and she puts spray on her hair and she makes braids. Princess jasmine is in love with aladdin |
Sounds like a little girl worte this,small kids those days haven't seen the movies,they"re just know the Princess are those "pretty princesses" and nothing behind it,they don't know anything about them or their movies,they don't even know their names (Like most of them that I know over here only really knows Snow White and Jasmine that all of them love,they only know that Ariel is The Little Mermaid,Belle is Beauty and they get confused between Aurora and Cinderella... so sad,and they only that Aurora is Sleeping Beauty when they realize that she's not Cinderella),she really don't get who Jasmine (Or any other Princess) is,she likes how she looks and her dress. _________________
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Meesh Magic Carpet

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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not sure that most little kids really grasp the concept of choosing a hero who has good morals (besides what their parents say). I liked Jasmine because she was pretty and didn't bore me like the other princess sometimes did. (The second part came a little later.)
And to answer your first question, I think the love interest getting captured is romantic because it demonstrates the desperate and/or unbreakable bond of love between the hero and the distressed.
And this goes both ways. I think immediately of Aladdin coming to rescue Jasmine (like in "Garden of Evil") and also of Jasmine coming to rescue Aladdin (like in "The Secret of Dagger Rock"). First of all, they are inconsolably distressed at the thought of losing the one they love. Then they are willing to risk anything to bring them back.
THAT to me is an epitome of romantic. _________________
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